REFLECTOR: Making Velocities easier to builld

Fri Oct 2 11:39:15 CDT 2009

Would appreciate any comments on the legality of building kits, wings, ect for profit. I have heard of several people assembling kits for others and charging for their work.

Dean Unterreiner

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> 1. Factory Support (Rene Dugas)
> 2. Re: Factory Support (Lawrence Epstein)
> 3. Re: Making Velocities easier to build? (John Tvedte)
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> From: "Rene Dugas" <dugasd at bellsouth.net>
> Subject: REFLECTOR: Factory Support
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> Folks might get bored by my many stories of Fantastic Factory Support
> (stranded in Billings, Montana)but they are my long distance family now
> since I adopted them in 1995 after my factory demo flight with Dwayne S.
> (We passed a Piper Arrow like it was standing still - Loved it.)
> 
> Have they gotten everything right all the time - no, but I haven't either
> (three sets of nose gear doors.) Occasional missing part- yep. Still love
> 'em. These are gutsy dedicated guys who have stuck with a bunch of weird
> aviation enthusiasts and builders for many years. They have politely taken
> abuse and suggestions and done what THEY thought best. We still have them
> and a great aircraft. Building is a frustrating elongated activity. 
> 
> I say Hip Hip Hurrah.
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> I'm not saying don't be persistent when mistakes occur but ALWAYS remember
> most of us could not walk in their shoes.
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> Lovingly,
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> Rene' Dugas, MD
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> XL RG
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> 6 year 6000 hr build
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> Flying for 6 years and enjoying 99.999%.
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> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 20:54:58 -0400
> From: Lawrence Epstein <ljepstein at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Factory Support
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> Amen to that. (Just make sure you get to the Brotts before Ken)
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> On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 2:35 PM, victor taylor <velocityoner at yahoo.com>wrote:
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> > I am sure that all business have mistakes from time to time and that
> > Velocity is no different. However I can tell you that through the 17 years
> > that I have delt with them they have bent over backwards to do the right
> > thing for me. While on a very few occations the person that I wanted to talk
> > to was out of the office or busy they have never failed to get back with me
> > in a timely manor.
> > Just recently I got the wrong bearings, which was probably my fault to
> > begin with. I called and talked to Ken and the problem was fixed that day.
> >
> > Scott Baker is the type of guy that if he is wrong he will quickly admit it
> > and do his best to correct it. I think if you give Scott the chance to make
> > it right you won't be dissapointed.
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> > Victor Taylor
> > N93DV
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> Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 00:08:58 -0500
> From: John Tvedte <johnt at comp-sol.com>
> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Making Velocities easier to build?
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> I think a little constructive criticism should be welcomed.
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> I have had exemplar support from the factory. I don't claim to have needed anything special, but have always been treated well. I have also visited the factory on a number of occasions, given an impromptu tour, as well as had quite a bit of time given to me to discuss installation issues, show me examples, etc., always very much appreciated.
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> Insurance of consistent QC is always a challenge - requiring continuous attention and intervention when problems are identified.
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> Attached is one example of a part I elected to replace; the brake caliper shim. The Matco axles are machined so the top bolts are smaller diameter than the bottom bolts. This is done because when landing, the bottom bolts will be in tension, and for weight savings. The shims provide for the correct caliper spacing for the Cleveland brake upgrade, but had all 4 holes drilled to the larger bolt size.
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> Another example, the canard cuffs were about 1"+ too short - so I had to feather additional glass.
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> Or having to fix the trailing edge of the elevators - glass was not bonded.
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> Or an 'improvement' like changing the bolt location on the toe-brake system (where the rudder bracket is attached) - for more clearance of the Matco brake cylinders.
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