REFLECTOR: Membership Roster

[Lou Stedman]

I must say I do not agree that we are looked down upon by the EZ group. I 
think we just come from different places and interests. I have never built 
an aircraft from scratch but I have certainly rebuilt more than I ever 
expected to do. I purchased an old LEZ about ten years ago and spent several 
years bringing it back to flying condition. All through that time the CSA 
group was always happy to give me insight and tips to get me through my 
various stages. I then sold my LEZ and purchased an old VEL that needed some 
work. Once again everyone in the CSA group would answer my questions and 
were very helpful. In fact better than the VEL group. When I post a question 
I would post both to canard aviators and reflector. The response from the 
CSA group was always three to one over the reflector group. I hate to see 
this so called cast system allowed to get a foothold. The truth of the 
matter is that we all LOVE building and flying canards. That is what we 
should focus on, not our differences. I know that if you gave the CSA group 
a chance you would see what I do. OK, I am off my soapbox now.

Lou Stedman
Velocity N7044Q
Olean, NY
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alex Balic" <velocity_pilot at verizon.net>
To: "'Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list'" <reflector at tvbf.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 10:11 AM
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Membership Roster


> Yea- I get that from the EZ guys at my field- although they somehow have
> fully accepted the local Burkut builder- probably because the design is so
> similar.  I gain some favor because I did not get any fast build options 
> so
> I usually start the conversations with how tough it was (not) to get the
> foam cores lined up and sanded on the wings, then they counter with how 
> easy
> it must have been to just glue 2 fuselage halves together.....
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org] On
> Behalf Of Scott Derrick
> Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 8:19 AM
> To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list
> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Membership Roster
>
> I would add that there is a not so subtle class system within the EZ
> crowd, with Velocity's at the bottom.
>
> What did we do wrong in their log filled eyes?
>
> 1.) We are flying an airplane Rutan said, "would not fly", Maher proved
> him wrong and did it any way.  At least thats the story.
>
> 2.) Its a "no don't say it!",  kit plane.  Real canards are plans built.
>
> 3.) Velocity's sell(turn over) more than EZ's, so there is a perceived
> higher percentage of bought Velocity's.  A good number of these bought
> Velocity's are owned by people with have an avid interest in flying and
> not much in building.  How could they?
>
> Scott
>
> PS. Boy would this message get some traction on the
> rec.aviation.homebuilt  news group!   I'd have to put on my Nomex suit!
>
> vance atkinson wrote:
>> Lou Stedman wrote:
>>> After reading Al's posting about his missing door incident, I was
>>> curious about where he was located. I pulled out my trusty Central
>>> States Association membership roster, assuming that most canard
>>> builders and flyers were members. To my surprise, I found only eleven
>>> Velocity owners listed out of 789 members. My question is why? I have
>>> been a member since I got my Long EZ about ten years ago and find it
>>> to be a wonderful asset when rebuilding some particular part of our
>>> canard aircraft. I look forward to the quarterly publication which
>>> comes out full of building tips and articles so dear to we
>>> experimental nuts. One of the other things I find invaluable is the
>>> annual membership roster that comes out in January with everyone's
>>> name and contact information. I keep in my aircraft so that I can
>>> look up fellow canardians whenever I visit anew area. I am fairly new
>>> to the Velocity Group so I may not be aware but is there something
>>> similar to this with fellow Velocity owners. If not I would encourage
>>> all to become a member of CSA. Contact information is
>>> jschubert at juno.com <mailto:jschubert at juno.com>. The other choice
>>> would be to make up our own Velocity membership roster and I would be
>>> happy to get involved in this.
>>>
>>>
>>> Lou Stedman
>>> Velocity N7044Q
>>> Olean, NY
>> Lou... Ive found in general that the Velo crowd does less tinkering
>> than the "EZ" crowd does.  and a lot more Velos were built by others
>> rather than the owner.  They tend to spend money on things for fixes
>> rather than come up with a cheap homemade solution.
>> The above is applied in general to their population.
>>
>> vance atkinson
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