REFLECTOR: Reflector Digest, Vol 56, Issue 7- Paint issues
Mark Riley
anriley at comcast.net
Mon Jan 5 17:07:02 CST 2009
I am in the process of selecting paints for the exterior trim design. I like
the metallic paints but seem to recall that they will block the antennas due
to the aluminum particles they contain. I'd appreciate any advice re
available alternatives to plain colors. I can't use the color changing paint
this time because my scheme contains two colors.
Thanks in advance for any advice.
Mark
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1. Re: Aileron control stick pound pull (Scott Baker)
2. Re: trip (Scott Derrick)
3. Best way to secure piano hinge wire (Dennis Martin)
4. Re: Best way to secure piano hinge wire (nmflyer1 at aol.com)
5. Re: Best way to secure piano hinge wire (Brian Michalk)
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 08:05:11 -0500
From: "Scott Baker" <sbakr at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Aileron control stick pound pull
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Hello Andy,
Confirm the ailerons have freedom of movement with the cables disconnected.
Make sure the foam core does not interefer with the 6' long aileron torque
tube inside the wing.
The aileron push-pull cables will have more internal friction when they are
new. The tightness of the dust caps contributes to this. The friction
caused by the dust caps will become less over time. When routing the
push-pull cables, make as wide a bend as possible when turning the cables
from the whale tale through the firewall. Too tight of a radius will cause
internal friction.
Note that stick force feel is different in the air than on the ground.
Depending upon the tightness of the ailron trim spring, the ailerons can
feel somewhat stiff on the ground - but feel great during flight.
My advise not to worry about the 2# aileron stick force for now. Fly the
aircraft and fine tune your determinations. The aileron control motion of
the stick should be smooth - no binding action.
Happy New Year!
Scott B.
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From: "Andrew Ellzey" <ajlz72756 at yahoo.com>
To: "Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list" <reflector at tvbf.org>
Cc: <scottb at velocityaircraft.com>
Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 5:22 PM
Subject: REFLECTOR: Aileron control stick pound pull
I just completed rigging my aileron's and would like to know what pound pull
should be expected on the control stick. Using a cheep fish scale for a pull
gage I am getting about a 2lb pull needed for the first 1 inch of aileron
travel and then a gradual increase to about 4lbs for full deflection. I have
an XLRG with the cut down keel mod so my bell cranks are rigged accordingly
(Velocity XL-5 Rigging). The 2lb pull is the best that I have been able to
achieve and haven't lubed anything yet. It seems to me that the push pull
cables should have been shorter to reduce the radius of the bend as it
travels through the gear bulkheads. My push pull cables are 60 inches long.
Was I supposed to receive shorter cables with the cut down keel mod? Is
there anyone on the reflector with the -5 option that hasn't installed their
push pull aileron cables that could measure their cables?
The manual calls for white grease under the rubber cups, has anyone found
anything better? And yes, I reamed my rubber cups to reduce or completely
eliminate any drag from the rubber wipers of the cups. I know that some say
to completely remove the inboard cups, but if you do this the plastic guide
that is under the cups doesn't stay in place without the cups to hold them.
I took the factory demo ride before I bought my kit in 2005, and I don't
remember the aileron pull to be this stiff. What I remember was a very light
touch needed to fly the factory XLRG.
Andy Ellzey
XLRG
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2009 07:43:18 -0700
From: Scott Derrick <scott at tnstaafl.net>
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: trip
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I hear ya Bob!
Bob Hassel wrote:
> Hi Kurt,
>
>
>
> Maybe you should post a link to those places open at the airpark. I
> haven?t seen 60 in months, the ground is still covered in white and even
> my golf clubs are collecting dust. I?m only a little over an hour away
> in Santa Fe!
>
>
>
> Bob
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> *From:* reflector-bounces at tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org]
> *On Behalf Of *nmflyer1 at aol.com
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 01, 2009 6:05 PM
> *To:* reflector at tvbf.org
> *Subject:* Re: REFLECTOR: trip
>
>
>
> Oh, by the way. If you decide to move from the frozen North, there are
> places available here at the airpark. It was 60 today, had the hangar
> open all day fiddling with the ELT and cleaning up things.
>
> :) Sorry.. I had to
>
> Kurt
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lou Stedman <stedmanlou at roadrunner.com>
> To: canard Aviators <canard-aviators at yahoogroups.com>; Reflector
> Velocity <reflector at tvbf.org>
> Sent: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 5:17 pm
> Subject: REFLECTOR: trip
>
> Well I am sitting hear in the dead of winter in wonderful Western New
> York, envying all of you sun country people , who get to fly this time
> of year. Every year at this time I wonder why we don't move to warmer
> climate. Then spring comes and I forget. For all of us in the no-fly
> zone, keep those flying encounters coming.
>
>
>
> This summer I am planning on a flying vacation out West. We would like
> to visit the National Parks and anything else of interest that we can
> fly to. I remember a discussion, a while back, about airports in or near
> the park systems. I also remember a book which I read years ago on
> flying vacations. I have tried to Goggle the information but have found
> little success. If anyone has ideas for me, I would greatly appreciate it.
>
>
>
> Lou Stedman
> Velocity N7044Q
> Olean, NY
>
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 08:34:03 -0700
From: "Dennis Martin" <dennis.doc at gmail.com>
Subject: REFLECTOR: Best way to secure piano hinge wire
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I know Kurt Winker has the same hinge installation on his cowl. Just wanted
to know best way to secure my cowling piano hinge wires. My wires now
protrude out the trailing edge of the wing root. I've got a couple of ideas,
but I assume there's a preferred method - something tried and true? Anybody
know of a web site with photos?
I'm off to the hangar this morning to make some welding mods on my headers.
Need to tweak one pipe to give better clearance for the aileron bell crank.
I've got a professional welder friend - I manufactured a complex part for
his Bearhawk so I get a freebie.
Happy new year to all,
Dennis Martin
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All the best,
Dennis
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2009 10:57:54 -0500
From: nmflyer1 at aol.com
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Best way to secure piano hinge wire
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Dennis,
I actually have not finished that part yet. There is an RV builder friend of
mine that finished his cowl off nicely and I'd like to duplicate that. He's
out on sick leave after back surgery right now, but I should see him soon
enough. Once I get all the details on how they did it, I'll let you know.
Got some crude video of the V-6 running yesterday, I'll see if I can figure
out how to put it somewhere viewable!
ELT done, GPS antenna done, Next I start finishing the doors for paint.
Kurt
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From: Dennis Martin <dennis.doc at gmail.com>
To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list <reflector at tvbf.org>
Sent: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 8:34 am
Subject: REFLECTOR: Best way to secure piano hinge wire
I know Kurt Winker has the same hinge installation on his cowl. Just wanted
to know best way to secure my cowling piano hinge wires. My wires now
protrude out the trailing edge of the wing root. I've got a couple of ideas,
but I assume there's a preferred method - something tried and true? Anybody
know of a web site with photos?
I'm off to the hangar this morning to make some welding mods on my headers.
Need to tweak one pipe to give better clearance for the aileron bell crank.
I've got a professional welder friend - I manufactured a complex part for
his Bearhawk so I get a freebie.
Happy new year to all,
Dennis Martin
--
All the best,
Dennis
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2009 11:07:21 -0600
From: Brian Michalk <michalk at awpi.com>
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Best way to secure piano hinge wire
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Send it to me, I'll put it up.
YouTube also works.
nmflyer1 at aol.com wrote:
> Dennis,
>
> I actually have not finished that part yet. There is an RV builder
> friend of mine that finished his cowl off nicely and I'd like to
> duplicate that. He's out on sick leave after back surgery right now, but
> I should see him soon enough. Once I get all the details on how they did
> it, I'll let you know.
>
> Got some crude video of the V-6 running yesterday, I'll see if I can
> figure out how to put it somewhere viewable!
>
> ELT done, GPS antenna done, Next I start finishing the doors for paint.
>
> Kurt
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dennis Martin <dennis.doc at gmail.com>
> To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list <reflector at tvbf.org>
> Sent: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 8:34 am
> Subject: REFLECTOR: Best way to secure piano hinge wire
>
> I know Kurt Winker has the same hinge installation on his cowl. Just
> wanted to know best way to secure my cowling piano hinge wires. My wires
> now protrude out the trailing edge of the wing root. I've got a couple
> of ideas, but I assume there's a preferred method - something tried and
> true? Anybody know of a web site with photos?
>
> I'm off to the hangar this morning to make some welding mods on my
> headers. Need to tweak one pipe to give better clearance for the aileron
> bell crank. I've got a professional welder friend - I manufactured a
> complex part for his Bearhawk so I get a freebie.
>
> Happy new year to all,
>
> Dennis Martin
>
>
>
> --
> All the best,
> Dennis
>
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