REFLECTOR: Another VG question
nmflyer1 at aol.com
nmflyer1 at aol.com
Fri Apr 3 10:54:13 CDT 2009
Tom,
Honestly, that doesn't surprise me either. We have a "new & Improved" method of holding what used to be in piles of publications & documents. Unfortunately this thing (Called ERIDS) sucks. It is very hard to find what you want in there if you can find it at all. I remember looking up "VELO" in ERIDS, and it is not stored, but it is valid and contained in the FAA Contractions Manual. Combine that with all the new & underexperienced folks we are getting to replace seasoned controllers & that explains it. They don't have to understand it or even agree. Tell them to put in VELO/whatever and it will work.
Kurt
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From: Tom <tomcat05 at comcast.net>
To: reflector at tvbf.org
Sent: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 5:37 am
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Another VG question
I had always filed VELO but on 2 occasions I've had controllers tell me they didn't know what it was and it wasn't a valid code. Another one even changed my flight plan to HXB on his own..Tom?
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"HXA" stands for an experimental aircraft with a cruise speed of 100 knots or less. "HXB" is for experimental aircraft with a cruise speed of greater than 100 knots up to and including 200 Knots.?
"HXC" is for experimental aircraft with a cruise speed of greater than 200 knots. ?
According to FAA order 7340.1, these designators should be used when the FAA has not identified a permanent designator (Such as VELO). ?
If the AOPA site does not recognize "VELO" then they have not updated their FAA contractions manual. A simple phone call to them should take care of that. I do know that the ARTCC (En Route Centers) computers do recognize VELO. ?
Personally, I prefer when a pilot tells me what he is really flying. "HXB" leaves way too much room for variables, not to mention my own curiosity. I just have to ask :) ?
A couple other odd traits:? Approach and tracon computers default the aircraft equipment suffix to a /"T". That pisses me off, since not only are most experimentals at least /U or /A, but if you were actually flying a /T in approaches airspace, you would require a waiver (or at least a phone call). Good Ole FAA anti-logic. ?
So, if you check in for flight following, or file, tell them that you are a VELO/G or whatever fits. It makes for much more useful information. ?
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